tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post8971145222255514417..comments2023-12-27T23:42:45.680-05:00Comments on The Abortioneers: Parents and Abortionplacenta sandwichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14729355361057625131noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-84777903694652681152010-02-09T02:41:25.299-05:002010-02-09T02:41:25.299-05:00Sorry I'm late chiming in again. Generation Ro...Sorry I'm late chiming in again. Generation Roe - thanks for that tidbit!!<br /><br />The only other show I've ever seen do abortion well is "The L Word." They've had two episodes on abortion and I believe they tried to air it sensitively. It's just sad that it was on CABLE. :)about a girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01313965640546983211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-31272824257951898502010-01-27T09:11:33.588-05:002010-01-27T09:11:33.588-05:00Wow, thanks generation roe, I've never watched...Wow, thanks generation roe, I've never watched that show. Will look for that episode...placenta sandwichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729355361057625131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-15666722276898981392010-01-26T23:04:34.313-05:002010-01-26T23:04:34.313-05:00Wow, really? I'll have to look it up. Haven...Wow, really? I'll have to look it up. Haven't seen that show either though I heard some seasons ago one of the main characters talked this girl out of an abortion with the "gift from god" and "the next bill gates!" arguments.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03818573358986858228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-13290116246228036072010-01-26T14:44:43.211-05:002010-01-26T14:44:43.211-05:00Chiming in way too late to ask, did anyone see/rea...Chiming in way too late to ask, did anyone see/read about the "Friday Night Lights" episode that also aired last week and also featured a teenager who had an unplanned pregnancy? She did choose abortion, and though I haven't seen the ep yet, from what I've read it was sensitively and realistically (well, at least for TV!) handled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-89211142030650904492010-01-24T23:28:23.061-05:002010-01-24T23:28:23.061-05:00Oh and here is a NYT article that mentions the Deg...Oh and here is a NYT article that mentions the Degrassi episode Steph brought up, too: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/18/arts/television-television-s-most-persistent-taboo.html?pagewanted=1<br />OK that's all!!placenta sandwichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729355361057625131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-49693220183038854922010-01-24T23:26:14.598-05:002010-01-24T23:26:14.598-05:00Actually, there are lots of blog posts and such ab...Actually, there are lots of blog posts and such about that topic -- see http://coolbeanscool.blogspot.com/2005/05/abortion-on-tv.html and http://community.feministing.com/2008/07/on-abortion-and-mainstream-tel.html and a few on Pandagon, etc.placenta sandwichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729355361057625131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-6209276443263306792010-01-24T22:58:23.567-05:002010-01-24T22:58:23.567-05:00Good points, everyone! Yeah, it's so frustrati...Good points, everyone! Yeah, it's so frustrating how characters with unintended pregnancy literally never end up having an abortion on American TV, when we know that 1 in 3 do... It's not that it's "really disappointing" for any individual character to not choose abortion, like, carrying to term is as legitimate a choice as any, of course! It's more that in the aggregate, it's highly unrealistic and avoidant of the issue. In fact, way more often than actually carrying to term (which would disrupt the whole story, which is not what a twist like an unintended pregnancy is supposed to do! /sarcasm), the unexpectedly/unhappily pregnant woman often ends up having a miscarriage. Oh surprise!, I don't have to deal with this arc anymore! Rar :(placenta sandwichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729355361057625131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-71991510648375846442010-01-24T22:28:54.419-05:002010-01-24T22:28:54.419-05:00Ah, go figure. There's an inevitable pregnancy...Ah, go figure. There's an inevitable pregnancy plotline in every show it seems, with a uniform result, either no mention of abortion as an option or a last minute change of heart at the clinic. If not, the ep likely gets banned (like the Degrassi episode where a girl gets an abortion or the Family Guy abortion episode that I'll have to wait for on DVD or at least maybe Adult Swim). Of course I haven't seen every ep of every show so I might overlook a case or two.<br /><br />I forgot to say this in my last post, but the description of the parents reminded me of the article "The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion." If anyone hasn't read it:http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/22/9334/83825<br />Never gets old!Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03818573358986858228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-47447669618764109402010-01-24T21:24:07.754-05:002010-01-24T21:24:07.754-05:00Steph - I'm sure you can guess. Of course, the...Steph - I'm sure you can guess. Of course, the 15 year old opted to NOT have an abortion. That was really disappointing to me; on the plus side, two actresses on the show do mention their own previous abortions (in character) and how neither of them regretted it. I was glad for that at least.<br /><br />Socloset - I agree that the patient always comes first. And I can also relate to how having your mother not present got you through your abortion (having my mother not present during my labor and birth got me through that experience). I just do know that there are those people who do want to have their support person (whomever that might be) around with them during their procedure. There are certainly many women who don't. I get frustrated when the women who want to have their support person with them aren't always able to (though I also understand why clinics can find it a liability and not the best patient-focused care to allow others there).<br /><br />IronDog - you're right, sadly. I do think, however, that mainstream Americans don't have black and white views on abortion though (but may label themselves as pro-choice or pro-life) and that there are few who actually agree that abortion is wrong in all circumstances. I believe most mainstream Americans feel that's quite an extreme view. Thankfully!about a girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01313965640546983211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-81605034804142093422010-01-24T13:52:58.729-05:002010-01-24T13:52:58.729-05:00I don't watch that show, but I'm curious, ...I don't watch that show, but I'm curious, how did it end? (I can probably guess though, right?)Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03818573358986858228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-7616180495075479422010-01-24T12:41:43.084-05:002010-01-24T12:41:43.084-05:00It was only my mother not being there that got me ...It was only my mother not being there that got me through my abortion. <br /><br />I am not a very emotional person, nor was my abortion a particularly emotional point in my life. My mother on the other hand is. I don't think I could have handled sitting for eight hours trying not to throw up on anyone in the waiting room and dealt with her as well. It was all I could do to know that my fiance was sitting waiting for me for so long. I would have been embarassed for anyone to be in the procedure room with me. I would have been embarassed to have anyone in the recovery room with me.<br /><br />I am not telling you these things to de-value your desire to help loved ones of abortion patients. It is a noble goal and undoubtedly some people need it. I am telling you because for some people (I know if it is true for me it is true for SOMEONE else) that involvement would be more harm than good. Patient first, always.Little Miss Know It Allhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723137596956762784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387757235421993128.post-55355482976956277472010-01-24T10:21:29.171-05:002010-01-24T10:21:29.171-05:00Unfortunately, for the anti choice birth at at all...Unfortunately, for the anti choice birth at at all costs natalists the only "person" that matter is the one who is not yet a person. Your daughters welfare, the family's are inconsequential to them. The fetus supercedes all interests, and if your daughter's life is screwed for good or dies in the process, then that is the cost of doing business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com